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46784. Pekka Sippola             Re: Fusion
46785. Pekka Sippola             Re: Fusion
46786. Pekka Sippola             Re: Fusion
46787. Matthew O'Neill           Self destructing Js? + afb
46788. Matthew O'Neill           javascript
46789. Bippy M                   Re: New ABC
46790. Bippy M                   Re: New ABC
46791. roger buckley             Re: Spending frenzy prize draw
46792. roger buckley             Re: Unexplained gurus
46793. Oliver Roberts            Re: surfin' rodents
46794. Wesley Potter             Re: G3/G4 cards
46795. Wesley Potter             Re: tag!
46796. Kevin Fairhurst           Re: G3/G4 cards
46797. Eddie Maddock             Re: Spending frenzy prize draw
46798. Kevin Fairhurst           Re: tag!
46799. Jonathan Day              Re: New ABC
46800. Jonathan Day              Re: Spending frenzy prize draw
46801. Jim Spratt                Re: Internet costs
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From:   Pekka Sippola <[e-mail]>
Date:   Fri, 11 Feb 2000 23:06:33 +0200
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Hello Ben

>> I am a complete beginner to use Fusion, but I got it to run after
>> tweaking about a hour - much easier than Shapeshifter, which I have
>> used a little. I could make Fusion to accept the same hardfiles as
>> Shapeshifter - from CUCD (RIP) - after some fiddling and could then
>> format a Fusion/Mac partition. But - is there something like
>> Shapeshifter's Mac Handler, that makes the Mac partition visible for
>> Amiga and allows easy file transfer from Amiga to Fusion?
>
> I don't know about that, but I can tell you that we have a complete
> hardfile of System 7.5.3 on the CD this issue along with FreeDOS.

Thx - but I got already 7.5.5 from Internet and 200 MB stuff, all
imported to Fusion from SS via SS hardfiles copied to Fusion partition
via Fusion hardfiles - complicated but worked, as I did not yet learn
how to mount thingies to Fusion.

Regards
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From:   Pekka Sippola <[e-mail]>
Date:   Fri, 11 Feb 2000 22:57:37 +0200
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Hello Nick

> Yup.  And something much better.  Now, I believe (because I use
> SShifter; well until next Monday i will... :) that when you swich from
> Fusion's screen to Workbench you get the ICP window, from there you
> should be able to mount any volume on the Mac to the Amiga.  Or use a
> PC formatted disk (1440/720)...

Thx; with PiP window it's easier, as you can have both visible at the same
time and other stuff also.

Regards
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From:   Pekka Sippola <[e-mail]>
Date:   Fri, 11 Feb 2000 22:51:15 +0200
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Hello Robert
>> a Fusion/Mac partition. But - is there something like
>> Shapeshifter's Mac
>> Handler, that makes the Mac partition visible for Amiga and
>> allows easy
>> file transfer from Amiga to Fusion?

> Try CrossMac, and IIRC there IS a file x-fer option in Fusion... it's
> hidden in the button-menus that are on your WB screen whilst Fusion is
> running...

Yeah; reading tfm gave me something to explore further, but the SS
solution is so easy - just drag and drop...

Regards
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Zipper

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now cooking with A4000/233PPC




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From: Matthew O'Neill <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 19:41:17 +0100
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Hi

Here's me trying to make my own webpage using lots of java, and theres you
forgetting to put it on the CD! :p  AFCD50:-In_the_Mag-/JavaScript/ The
first time I whack the CD in ASAP just to see something on there, and it
ain't :(

Hey!, I've got the first 3 messages on the afb archive :)

Mash - Waiting for lots of mail order stuff and not writing his page
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From: Matthew O'Neill <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 20:02:19 +0100
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Agggghhhhhh! Stupid case sensitive f**king language.... which retard decided
to do that!!?? oh, and take note that quark prints a longer line when you
type -- so it looks like you've only typed one of them rather than teo. Now
I know this I can make the best site on the planet...

oh and one last thing, you have this piece of code to generate the new URL:

TempA = location.href.split('.html');
TempA[0] = TempA[0] + '_png';
NewURL = TempA.join('.html');

Firstly, what does the second line do? why not just use:

TempA = location.href.split('.html');
NewURL = TempA.join('_png.html');

secondly, If I include the second line then Ibrowse changes to
index,_png.html and there shouldn't be a comma there. Removing the second
line send it to the correct site, however though the windows keep
refreshing and then it bombs out saying "illegal address access (ie:odd)"
V tells me "function expected" for the first line of the code

HELP!??

Mash
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From: Bippy M <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 17:51:40 +0000
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Howdy Nick

On 11-Feb-00, Nick Lamburn wrote:

NL> Hi,

NL>>> Wow That was quick! :)  The number is in the mag so I'll look there
NL>>> instead of bothering you.  Here's another idea, make AF a registred
NL>>> charity then you can recieve legal external donations to keep going!
NL>>
NL>> Even without being a charity, Rich and I are only too happy to receive
NL>> donations of beer and crisps...

NL> Hmmm, if I could make it to a Bristol SWAG meeting I'd only be to happy
NL> to buy you many many packets of crisps and beer.  Problems with that (I
NL> am a SWAG member btw and I will get the newsletter online asap btw! :)
NL> are:

NL> * I'm 100 miles away from Bristol
NL> * I'm almost Seventeen
NL> * Which means legally I cannot drive :) (though I can!)
NL> * I cannot afford the taxi there ;))
NL> * Bus's don't go that far! :)

You're also not old enuff to buy beer -- legally --
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From: Bippy M <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 17:54:51 +0000
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Howdy Nick

On 11-Feb-00, Nick Lamburn wrote:

NL> Hi,

NL>>> Bother said Poo as he caught Tigger with his tail glued to the
NL> floor.
NL>>
NL>> Shouldn't that be Pooh?

NL> AT LAST!  Someone spotted it! :)  Well done Robert you have one the
                                                                ^^^ one or
won?

NL> star prize which is a pat on the back! :-))  I'm surprised no one found
NL> out sooner...

NL> All the best,

NL> Nick.
NL> Bother said Pooh as Tigger nicked his money.


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From: roger buckley <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 14:13:03 +0000
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Hello Eddie

On 11-Feb-00, you wrote:

> Hi Roger,
>
>> I gave up on Electronic Boutique ages ago (even for Quake total
> conversions).  As long as you bought something this last week on
> mail order...  er, you did didn't you Roger ?
>
Yeah, 2 mice from Power & found Adventures of Robin Hood & A-train on the
local market.
>
Regards
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Roger

Amiga 1200, Viper 68030 Mk V Accel with 50Mhz FPU and 8 MBFast, Seagate 410MB
2.5" internal HD and 800MB SCSI HD in a midi tower with 4xCDRom. 56k Modem,
Power Port Junr Serial IF G.Image Hand Scanner & Citizen Swift Printer.
Website:-http://callnetuk.com/home/rogerbu
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From: roger buckley <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 14:18:27 +0000
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Hello Peter

On 11-Feb-00, you wrote:

> Hey
>
>> A more powerful power supply would probably cure many of your
> problems.
>
> I would like to wire up a more powerful pc powersupply but i don't know
> how to wire it up to the power port on the back of the a1200. So could
> some one tell me how to wire a pc power supply to an a1200
>
Try Aminet for the diagrams & tips.
>
Regards
--
Roger

Amiga 1200, Viper 68030 Mk V Accel with 50Mhz FPU and 8 MBFast, Seagate 410MB
2.5" internal HD and 800MB SCSI HD in a midi tower with 4xCDRom. 56k Modem,
Power Port Junr Serial IF G.Image Hand Scanner & Citizen Swift Printer.
Website:-http://callnetuk.com/home/rogerbu
ICQ-62990780 Robuck2
Politicians should read science fiction, not westerns and detective
stories.
-- Arthur C. Clarke




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Date: 11 Feb 2000 20:57:55 +0000
From:  "Oliver Roberts" <[e-mail]>
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On 11-Feb-00 12:20:36 GMT, Matthew O'Neill wrote:

> Whats the serial port on the surf squirrel like? Theres one on amibench

Probably as good as any other.  I still use the serial port on my Surf
Squirrel for my modem (moved my SCSI stuff to my BPPC).  Beats the
internal serial port any day, and offers upto 230,400 bps - more than
enough for a modem.  Despite asking on many occasion, I still don't
know if the Silver Surfer / Twister would be any better, but even if they
are, I'm sure the Surf Squirrel wouldn't be that much worse.  One good
thing going for the Surf Squirrel is that the device driver is excellent -
fully compatible with serial.device, unlike some other third-party devices
I could mention.

> which I might get (does anywhere do pcmcia L sockets?) I'm planning on
> connecting my modem to that, getting an adaptor to use a serial mouse on
> my internal port, and maybe using the scsi to connect a zip drive, could
> I do all this with it?

In short, yes.

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From: Wesley Potter <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 19:31:51 +0000
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On 09-Feb-00 Kevin Fairhurst said;


>> Besides ther was a processor called the 68070 it was in the CDi
>
> And it was (IIRC) nothing more than a rebadged 68000 ...


IIRC it wasn't a rebadged processor but a processor based on the 68k made by
Phillips themselves.

l8r
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From: Wesley Potter <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 20:33:58 +0000
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On 11-Feb-00 Kevin Fairhurst said;

>
> They want to be able to just e-mail any files to a bunch of people and not
> have to convert it all into a different format just for me ...

Can't they get you the Mac version of Word instead ??

> Anyway i'm looking for alternative employment as it happens so  Imight
> never get the PC   :-)

Yippee!

(The not getting a PC bit not the looking for another job)

l8r
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From: "Kevin Fairhurst" <[e-mail]>
Date: 11 Feb 2000 22:26:27 +0000
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On Thu, 10 Feb 2000 19:31:51 +0000, Wesley Potter ([e-mail]) wrote:
> On 09-Feb-00 Kevin Fairhurst said;
>
>
> >> Besides ther was a processor called the 68070 it was in the CDi
> >
> > And it was (IIRC) nothing more than a rebadged 68000 ...
>
>
> IIRC it wasn't a rebadged processor but a processor based on the 68k made by
> Phillips themselves.

okay it was an amended 68000 with a new name ...

Kev

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From: "Eddie Maddock" <[e-mail]>
Date: 11 Feb 100 12:51:29 -0500
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Hi Ben,

> > I haven't actually heard it (as it's sealed in the packaging) but Ben
> > got a Darth Vader keyring off me. What's that like Ben ?
>
> Ah well, to be brutally honest Eddie, it made a nice tree pressie for Dan,
> so you'll have to ask him...

LOL !  Not so die hard a Star Wars fan as I thought then, eh Ben ?  ;)

Which reminds me, have you bought anything this week (no, not DVD's !)
You could end up with that Stormtrooper keyring. On second thoughts
knowing my luck, you probably would get your name drawn out the hat
(the big hat). I can already hear the cries of "it's a fix Maddock !"

One final addition to the prize draw. My copy of os3.5 and roms
from Eyetech turned up yesterday. I also ordered the magic pack
(mainly for the Organiser software, which I fell in love with after
trying it out on a coverdisk years back). So I've also got another
version of Wordworth (4SE). If the winner wants this word processing
package I'll throw it into the prize bundle as well.

So todays your last chance. Anyone bought anything and not owned up,
now's the time to do it !

Cheers,

Eddie (btw, I've got the Imperial Star Destroyer keyring and that
makes a load of laser sounds and gives off red flashes from it's
engines, so the stormtrooper keyring should do something impressive)


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From: "Kevin Fairhurst" <[e-mail]>
Date: 11 Feb 2000 22:27:38 +0000
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On Fri, 11 Feb 2000 20:33:58 +0000, Wesley Potter ([e-mail]) wrote:
> On 11-Feb-00 Kevin Fairhurst said;
>
> >
> > They want to be able to just e-mail any files to a bunch of people and not
> > have to convert it all into a different format just for me ...
>
> Can't they get you the Mac version of Word instead ??

probably not no

> > Anyway i'm looking for alternative employment as it happens so  Imight
> > never get the PC   :-)
>
> Yippee!
>
> (The not getting a PC bit not the looking for another job)

lol!  That's presuming i can get the new job

Kev

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From: "Jonathan Day" <[e-mail]>
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Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 22:29:41 -0000
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Hi Ben

> > I honestly thought it would be worse than that Ben, more like 9,000
> > ABC. :(  Well I just hope that's a goo enough figure to keep AF
> > chugging along... :)  Oh and let's hope you get plenty of adverts!
:)
>
> That's the main problem right now.

I`ve heard about Epic, that must be a bit of a bugger :-(

Did they drop it on you, or was there any warning (is this another
reason for the smaller mag or will it shrink again)?

Jon, questions, questions, questions...




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From: "Jonathan Day" <[e-mail]>
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Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 22:32:55 -0000
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Hi Eddie

> > > I haven't actually heard it (as it's sealed in the packaging) but
Ben
> > > got a Darth Vader keyring off me. What's that like Ben ?
> >
> > Ah well, to be brutally honest Eddie, it made a nice tree pressie
for Dan,
> > so you'll have to ask him...
>
> LOL !  Not so die hard a Star Wars fan as I thought then, eh Ben ?  ;)
>
> Which reminds me, have you bought anything this week (no, not DVD's !)
> You could end up with that Stormtrooper keyring. On second thoughts
> knowing my luck, you probably would get your name drawn out the hat
> (the big hat). I can already hear the cries of "it's a fix Maddock !"
>
BTW Eddie, how come you have all these keyrings?

Jon



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From: Jim Spratt <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 10:33:01 +0000
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> NEWBIE - FIRST POST : NEWBIE - FIRST POST

Hello Ken

On 09-Feb-00, you wrote:

>> On 7 Feb 00, at 20:36, Alkis Tsapanidis wrote:
>>
>>>   how much are the Internet phone rate in the UK???
<snip>

This is correct as long as you are using BT Together:  Costs 11.99 per
month, and offers 3 hours of free internet access (call allowances).

However could someone tell me if I can keep my valueplans?  (Currently call
waiting and unlimited ring back).

Jim Spratt - [e-mail]>>

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